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#131 - Caleb Loeppky

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I Love Jesus, but I Hate Christmas

LZ Granderson: Christmas is the thing that I hated the most out of being in church. LZ: There comes a time in everybody's life that they realize, hey, where's my ceiling? LZ: For me, we've been wrestling with that of like, what's the next thing? What can I do that I actually find joy in? How did we get from all that to Amplio? "I had lots of conversations with you about it and just going, what is next?" he says.

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