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Jarvis Cocker with Isy Suttie

The Penguin Podcast

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'Pull Is E, Your Fist Is a Holding'

When pulp did get some success, i wasn't just happy with that. As it's like, o now we have to change the world. Now the revolution starts. And maybe that's why i got a bit er crestfallen about it. Human beings just are never satisfied. I suppose it's funny, because i wouldn't know that from the outside, it feels like you have changed. But if you were told that you would have had the success that pulp has had an ines to have when you were young, you ha've gone wild. That's going to be amazing. No matter what success you get, the horizon's just change, don't you? And your ambitions

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