I think you know when you're at NPR it is kind of a collective and a magazine in the traditional sense. And so I really just believe that about myself that like it didn't matter if I was doing an interview. Like really maybe no one will listen to this. That's like very possible as you all know in an era of four point whatever million podcasts on various platforms. So I really took it slow small bites and just hyper focused and in my mind just kind of like okay what if fresh air was for real people.

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