As the Retirement Plan Live case study continues, Roger Whitney helps Henry and Lucy articulate what they want their FIRE retirement to actually look like—starting with values, dreaming without constraint, and then translating that vision into concrete goals. Along the way, Roger shares wisdom from older retirees about purpose, productivity, and flexibility, invites listeners to reflect on their own “magic,” and closes with a Smart Sprint and listener-submitted words for the year.

OUTLINE OF THIS EPISODE OF THE RETIREMENT ANSWER MAN

(00:00) This show is dedicated to helping you not just survive retirement, but to have the confidence and clarity to lean in and rock it.
(00:23) Roger previews today’s focus: Henry and Lucy’s retirement goals, advice from seasoned retirees, a Smart Sprint, and listener words for the year.
(01:00) Roger explains why retirement planning should begin with dreaming big—starting with “everything” before testing feasibility.

RETIREMENT PLAN LIVE

(03:25) Henry and Lucy walk through their core values and how those values shape their vision for retirement.
(05:55) Roger reviews and discusses Lucy’s top ten values.
(09:29) Henry talks about his top values.
(11:40) Roger reflects on whether retiring early means “burying” one’s gifts, and considers how purpose and contribution can take many forms beyond traditional work.
(13:44) Roger talks through Henry and Lucy’s goals for retirement and their budget for a great base life.
(19:47) Lucy breaks down her thought process on her great base life budget.
(23:00) Henry weighs in with his thoughts on their great base life.
(24:05) They review discretionary goals such as travel, a camper van, hobbies, and future family commitments.
(27:55) Lucy and Henry talk about aspirational wishes.
(35:00) Lucy talks about how they react during uncertain times.

WISDOM FROM RETIREES FURTHER ALONG

(41:41) Listener Mike shares why he chose “FILE” (Financially Independent, Living Early) instead of full FIRE, emphasizing purpose and reduced stress.
(45:10) Listener Renee offers perspective on flexibility, one spouse stepping away from work, and how lower stress improved family life.

SMART SPRINT

(48:08) Roger encourages listeners to separately write down their own “magic” retirement goals—without self-editing—then share and discuss them with their partner.

WORD FOR THE YEAR

(50:07) Roger shares listener words for the year.

CLOSING THOUGHTS

(53:17) Roger previews next week’s episode, where Henry and Lucy’s assets and resources will be evaluated to see what is feasible.

REFERENCES

Retire on Fire- Rocking an Early Retirement: Henry and Lucy's FIRE Goals

Retirement Answer Man

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