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The Importance of Storytelling in the Post-Pandemic World
Rogan: I think it's a beautiful framing of your life, and talking about your journey from kind of radicalization to reformation. It adds a lot of context for everything else we're going to discuss. So maybe we should jump into that a little bit, just a little bit of your story,. And then you have a long arc that brings you to kind of a reformation of sorts, and actually embracing Western values that you had formally opposed or at least been radically indoctrinated against perhaps. The book is called Radical by Marginolas; if people want an even deeper dive they can go there.