Are You a King or a Lamb?

Patrick Murray: I agree with your project by and large, but I'm still struggling with all this trying to figure out my own way of trying to nuance. And so we have to bring that kind of paradox together again of submission and subversion at the very same time. Do you see a model of sovereignty that allows God to have a kind of more permissive will or do you like see God as sovereign over every molecule? We can figure it out together. Patrick Murray: So you can, no, I hope I'm not figure out together. But anyway, I'm. Just leave me here at Patrick like a good shepherd.