We've been trusting scientists, but not science, that there's so much uncertainty around the pandamic. And we're living in a time now where we've had, you val evint on the programm talking about this at martin gory, expertis is dying. It's been betrayed to some extent by the practitioners. So everything's coun up for grabs down it's interesting to think about how policy and nudging are going to work in a world where people are really sceptical about what they used to trust know.

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