DevOps: A Separate Thing From Platform Engineering

I get how this is an extension of DevOps. This is sort of the team that built the tooling that lets the automation and all the self-serve stuff happen. Do you think that this will encompass DevOps or do you think that DevOps will still remain a separate thing from platform engineering? Yeah, that's a great question. And you know, I love having the chance of explaining on podcasts because, you know, we're running this like, now,. Now, it's that campaign a few months ago that made a lot of noise and pissed a lot of people off.