"I would refer to myself as quite stable, maybe even to the degree of big borig," she says. "But if you start moving into territory that's more about intimate relationships ... well, you can sometimes crack through that crust and fall through that shell." She describes a relationship between two people who are very vulnerable but also have strong feelings for closeness with each other.

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