There's this unconscious animal theory, the muted animal theory. And then there's a small percentage of people who think that animals might suffer more. In Disney's Peter Pan movie, Tinkerbell is a kind of a nasty character but she gets angry and she's so consumed by the anger that she just has no inhibition. When you suffer, say you stub your toe, or Greg's apple is giving childbirth. Many women experience enormous pain during childbirth,. But the literal pain they're feeling is not as bad as the same pain as getting bitten by a crocodile because it's part of something meaningful.

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