I would not dispute the fact that there's a there are powerful intuitions on the side of what I ultimately consider a moral illusion and that certain of these these intuitions and conventions may be worth indulging for consequentialist reasons. So you know you're the guilt there may be it may be good for you and good for the world that you feel that level of guilt or certainly some level of guilt if nothing else is going to keep you from ever driving drunk again say so we could talk about what norms follow from fully admitting to ourselves that libertarian free will doesn't exist.

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