The Tension Between Church and Mission Gospel Planting

We live into the principle that we see in disciple making movements globally is that if we make new disciples, we'll see new churches. But what we found in America is that it's not always that simple because we're so individualized and we are to stop making such an individualized practice like making disciples in America means one on one coffee shop dates. And well then, okay, we can do that, but we're not actually formed new churches. So would you know, so what we mean is like we want to see groups of people become disciples and then we will seenew churches. Okay, then we have the conversation of validating what is church, what is not church, but