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How to develop discipline: A conversation with Ryan Holiday

The Colin and Samir Show

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The interview lasted almost two hours. Smirn and I both re-listened to that, uh, episode. He's not super agreeable, which makes for an interesting episode. If he found any little moment that he didn't agree with, he would make sure to bring it up. And then you had the opportunity to come back and forth. That's the real purpose going into that type of interviewer.

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