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RefCounted
Ref counting makes it easier to manage things other than memory in the garbage collector, right? Because you know when things are gong to be dealicated. The other thing that's interesting about ref counted you sees, is the determinism of finalig which i guess you don't get if you do lazy finalization, but you do get otherwise. And at the point where you think you're done with reference counters, actually two, not one. You don't quite have the level of determinism with refranting that you might imagine.