The first time we met, i was bearish on liberalism. How times have changed? The parts of liberalism that i have always been bullish on are the freedom of expression and the free inquiry. I don't ha problem with free inquiry and free expression, because i believe that if you earnestly pursue the truth, you're only going to find god waiting for you. Just earnestly, keep searching, and that's all you'll find. Andokn how those two things are related. That part of liberalism is doing just fine wy. While the other half has taken the capitalism shit out of private property. People have decided to go nuts on the wrong sort of cromvlling
Elizabeth Bruenig is a staff writer at The Atlantic and a Catholic socialist who writes on topics as varied as capital punishment and mothering two children while in her twenties. Her work is uniquely marked by her ruby-red Texas upbringing, the elite professional world she now inhabits, and her deep sense of morality, which draws from both Christian theology and left-wing politics.
In a wide-ranging conversation, Elizabeth Bruenig and Yascha Mounk debate the importance of dialogue across moral perspectives, whether wokeness bears any resemblance to theology, and how religious conviction can give rise to an authentically liberal defense of free speech.
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