In a world where every marketeer is talking about purpose, it is interesting to find an agency that has been working in this domain for over a decade.

In this episode, I talk with Rob Holzer- the founder and CEO of Matter Unlimited.

Rob is something of a digital pioneer and was the co-founder of Syrup- a digital agency that worked with the likes of Puma and GE and got acquired by LBI.

Matter Unlimited works with a mix of non-for-profits, foundations and large clients and it's the experience they have on the ground with the non-profits that helps inform how they advise and the strategies they create and build for brands.

In a world of short-term projects, Rob is especially proud of his long-term client relationships including one that spans over a decade with Merck.