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CNLP 511 | Rich Villodas on the New Exodus in Church Attendance, Why Pastors Keep Failing, and the Next Generation of Pastors and Church Attenders

The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

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The Three Stages of Relationships

There are three stages of relationships. The heavenly stage, the hellish stage and the holding detention stage. When we come into a relationship with an idealistic lens, everything that comes against that is seen in extremes. And so very quickly from heavenly to hellish, where people are no longer angels, but now everyone is demons.

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