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In New York state's a perfect example where they just blanket pardoned everyone it's like oh what you set fire to a building what you destroyed people's homes their businesses and livelihoods there's a blanket pardon. The moment you see someone trying to get violent or doing whatever call them a fascist be like hey let's play the game too, says Van Jones. If you disagree with me people will die you're advocating for violence I'm just imagining like here's a bit for your shame as if you're listening he said.