Using recruiter relationships strategically

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Whether you’re searching for your next role or hiring in a market where talent is scarce and expectations are sky-high—this episode is for you.

Marc and Ben sit down with Anneli Scopazzi, founder of Boulevard Recruiting and former recruiting leader at Figma, Notion, and Palantir, to unpack how recruiting dynamics have shifted in early-stage startups. From the pressure to do more with fewer hires to the rising importance of domain expertise and “startup readiness,” Anneli shares hard-earned insights from years of placing critical hires at fast-growing companies.

They also dig into how candidates can sharpen their narrative, build stronger relationships with recruiters, and turn moments of rejection into trust-building opportunities. Whether you’re hiring your first PM or preparing to land your next role, this episode offers real talk and practical advice from both sides of the table.

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In this episode, we covered the following topics:

* (01:40) How AI is actually making recruiting harder, not easier

* (04:27) What startups really look for in their first PM and why the bar keeps rising

* (13:55) What “market mapping” looks like behind the scenes—and how candidates can show up in more searches

* (21:01) What unemployed candidates can do to regain momentum and stand out

* (37:09) Why recruiters ghost candidates (and what’s actually going on behind the scenes)

* (45:34) Telling an honest story vs giving the “right” answer—and how recruiters really respond

* (51:41) How to ask for feedback the right way—without putting the recruiter or yourself in a bad spot

* (56:42) Commonalities across interview processes at Stripe, Uber, Notion, and DoorDash

* (01:01:01) The rise of generalist vs specialist PM tracks—and how companies are structuring loops differently

* And more!

Links:

* Anneli Scopazzi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anneliscopazzi/

* Boulevard recruiting:

https://www.boulevardrecruiting.com/

* Marc: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcbaselga/

* Ben: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benerez/

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