How demagoguery exploits scapegoating

Shepard Fairey is an artist, activist, and founder of OBEY. We chat with him from his office in Los Angeles about World Series traffic, aesthetic appreciation in Charleston, SC, we thread the needle between Nexus, by Yuval Noah Harari, and Mission Impossible - The Final Reckoning, political scapegoating, how to start a revolution in 2025, how to navigate political activism without getting too overboard, Rage With The Machine, RISD shows in the 80s, working with Space Invader and Damien Hirst, and which jail was the most chill.

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