I was radicalized in prison by people who were affiliated to Al Qaeda. I then went on to use that strategy with kids on the streets and I want to still continue to use that book for the opposite effect. So what you've got to do effectively is de-radicalized kids. And it's about changing the mindset, changing the way of thinking. It remains a point. You should put them on a program and keep them manageable three months. But 28 pounds a day is going to be minimum. People are going to be volunteering. The lawyer who's volunteering, he's not getting paid. Everyone's volunteering their own time."

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