Speaker 2
No, it's just a standard smear. Yeah. That's a whistleblower. It's
Speaker 4
a damning whistleblower report on his previous behavior running two organizations where he drank too much he abused women sexual harassment oh
Speaker 1
i think the abused women and sexual harassment is the stripper story i think that's what they're folding on the stage holding that in a
Speaker 4
bunch of lying misspending mismanagement this story has got it all by Jane Mayer. And it's based on, well, it's a devastating. It's
Speaker 2
based on nothing. Very
Speaker 4
well reported piece about that.
Speaker 2
No, it's not. It's not well reported if you have all anonymous sources.
Speaker 1
Very, very well reported. Hey, Kara's a journalist and an author she knows what she's talking about very
Speaker 4
well reported piece about how bad a manager he was it may have been a bad period of his life but boy was it bad um the new york times also had the 2018 email from hegseth's mother calling her son an abuser of women that email was something else um she told the time she'd written the messages in anger and had apologized for it but boy did it have a ring of truth at the time i guess it was during the same time period had
Speaker 1
a ring of truth now just like just like the guy who was laughing about oh hours it's hours from now kara swisher she seems to know about new reporting before it comes out anyway
Speaker 4
we'll see what happens here but it disturbing. I would recommend reading the mother's letter. It's disturbing. It's along with the story from the New Yorker for Hegseth, that's for sure. And I'm looking forward to the Kash Patel story, which is going to be just worse, I think, in a different way, and the
Speaker 2
Tulsi Gabbard stories.
Speaker 4
Anyway, journalists are doing a great job with these things, and I thought it was a very fair story on Pete Hegseth. It really was. So, you know, whatever.
Speaker 2
Her voice is going to fall
Speaker 1
over here if it's any more bright. Yeah, journalists are doing a great job here. They're doing a great job. Wait until you see the Tulsi story. Wait until you see the... Kash Patel story. It's going to be worse. It's much worse. Kash Patel. They were two strippers. I'm telling you. Yeah, yogurt
Speaker 2
goat yogurt where does that come from it's just fermented goat yogurt the guy can't hold it uh
Speaker 1
obama is also out on the uh on the trail he was speaking at a democracy forum yeah i'm
Speaker 2
glad you got this clip. This clip was played, I think it's just Obama's flailing personally. Oh, yeah. They've made a lot out of this as though some scheme
Speaker 1
is afoot. Well, that's the whole point. First of all, he looks very thin. He doesn't look very, just doesn't look healthy. I don't know. He's probably
Speaker 2
under a lot of stress. I agree with that. I think he doesn't look healthy. I think he looks unhealthy. So it takes him 45 seconds to save 15 seconds worth of content.
Speaker 1
But here we go. There are going to be times potentially when one side tries to stack the deck and lock in. a permanent grip on power. What he's saying there is no more elections. Either by actively
Speaker 4
suppressing votes or politicizing the armed forces or using the judiciary, the criminal justice system to go after opponents.
Speaker 1
And in those circumstances...
Speaker 2
Does this guy see the irony in that comment? You mean, what you say, you're yourself? With your head through the head? Yes, exactly. And
Speaker 1
in those circumstances, pluralism does
Speaker 4
not call for us to just stand back and say, well, I'm not sure. That's okay. In
Speaker 1
those circumstances, a line has been crossed and we have to stand firm.
Speaker 1
not who we are. Just back to Swisher and Galloway. I just have two short clips here because they're just such morons. It's funny. So who really should we be selecting for these important cabinet positions? What
Speaker 4
would we be? What would be our job if you had to pick one? We do exactly what
Speaker 6
we're doing right now because our lives are really nice.
Speaker 4
I understand. But if you had to take a cabinet, they said, here, Scott, you have to take one cabinet job. You don't have a choice.
Speaker 6
Oh, easy. I'd want to be secretary of education. Oh,
Speaker 4
wow. Interesting. What would you guess I would want to be? Head
Speaker 6
of the CIA. That's
Speaker 4
right. That's right, my friend. That's correct. I'd spy on you.
Speaker 6
You do spy on me.
Speaker 1
You fucking text me at three in the morning. You know, she wants to be a spy so bad. You identified this like a couple of years back. Some time ago, yeah. Yeah. Maybe. In her bio. But I'm sure she talks to people all that. Maybe this is part of their job. It's not. They have a pretty big reach amongst the Democratic elite. They all love the. Oh, we love pivot. We love this. Why I listen to it. And that
Speaker 2
was a little back and forth. That was kind of kind of disturbing. Oh, they do this
Speaker 1
all the time. They are. They are. They are massive elites. And they just talk elitist.'s it's it's funny so who would clean up the food instead of you know we can't have rfk jr who would kara swisher want to really get rid of chemicals in our food who could it be who would be the right guy for that No guesses? No. One
Speaker 4
of the ones, we were just talking about this UnitedHealthcare thing, is the Health and Human Services director. I would make that Mark Cuban or someone like that. You need to facilitate change in how healthcare goes in this country.
Speaker 2
I'm going to never guess that in a million years that anyone would be so lame to suggest Mark Cuban as HHS. I know. It's a basketball team.
Speaker 1
He sold broadcast.com. Give me a break. You know how that went down. Now, there are two, there's another, this is, this is a kind of something odd that I picked up. Trump has appointed Lutnick. Is it Howard? Howard Lutnick from Cantor Fitzgerald to be the Commerce Secretary? Yeah. Now, interesting by himself... That's a Musk... Is that a Musk play? Well, Musk wanted him to be Treasury. Right. Well, so first of all, the $200,000 Bitcoin that we have is going to go, from what I understand, is going to go into Cantor Fitzgerald for safekeeping. And they're, you know, they're the guys who are now pumping up Tether stable coin. They just bought another five billion dollars worth of treasuries. So he's he's very, very intertwined with all of that. But there's something else that he is doing. And he is, and I have the other investor as a second clip. He is investing in Satellogic. And I had not heard of Satellogic, but it makes sense that he's friends with Musk. Let
Speaker 9
me start with you, Howard, because you were there first in a sense, as far as I know. Tell us about this company, Satellogic, and your deal with it, why it's a good investment. Well,
Speaker 3
we felt that space and the satellites in particular is really the next coming gigantic market for data. I mean, to have images of the whole Earth, data on the whole Earth, the amount of decisions that that will unlock and the ability and the economics of how that will unlock was extraordinary so we found the company satelogic it has the best technology it builds it redesigned every inch of the satellite it takes 10 times the images of everybody else i mean you look at these images 70 centimeters so you can count the containers on the ships count the cars count the trees count the number of what's working and what's not working in a solar farm i mean this is this is incredible technology and i think it just unlocks a vast vast sea of uh of opportunity in marketplaces and so this was the best technology, and that's why they redid the transaction. Yeah,
Speaker 1
I don't like that so much. Yeah, we can see everything. How many cars are on the loud? We can look down to 70 centimeters. We can see the pubes on you. He's way, way too excited about that. And who is the other investor who was in the same interview? Ah, it's our old buddy, Steve Mnuchin. So,
Speaker 9
Mr. Secretary, from your point of view, we've talked before about your new fund, the things you want to do with it. Explain why this was such an important investment for you and your fund.
Speaker 1
Well, David, it's great to be with you. And we're very focused on investments where not only can we bring capital, but we can bring our expertise. And we're particularly focused on the technology area, national security, and other forms where we can add a lot of value. So what we liked about this is great technology. We can add a lot of value here.
Speaker 2
We're adding value. So what we liked about this is great technology, very scalable, very affordable. And
Speaker 12
the combination of having a lot of data with a lot of AI really will enable both very big government markets and, more importantly, very big commercial
Speaker 3
a long-term investor. Our horizon is generally five years or longer. So we're really not focused on where the markets are in the short
Speaker 2
term. But, you know, the opportunity here is with vast amounts of data, we can really analyze climate issues, energy supply, food security,
Speaker 1
supply chains. So we really believe that this is going to create all new types of markets with scalable, affordable imagery. Yeah. Scalable, affordable imagery. How about the border? Maybe they should be doing border security. There you go. Yeah, we'll be checking. We'll be watching the border for you, president. I don't like these guys. You don't like who? I don't like either of them. Oh, I like him, but I don't want this commerce guy, this being our commerce guy, if he's got
Speaker 2
commerce on his mind. Well, that's what he did. It seems like a conflict. There's some reason Musk likes him. Maybe it's a satellite. The satellites,
Speaker 1
of course. Have you seen how many satellites are blanketing our globe that Musk has? Well, especially with these little moving ones that you're using for your internet.
Speaker 2
Yes. For your protection.
Speaker 1
Yeah. I don't know. Keep your eye on these guys. I did pull two clips from the Tucker Lavrov interview, which just, I was excited. I'm like, wow, he's talking all kinds of interesting stuff and then it just fell completely like a dud it was at 400 000 views on youtube and i'm sure it's all jacked and and and you know rigged whatever
Speaker 1
no no it's it's like 500 000 this morning oh so that's not a lot no it fell flat or at least the numbers maybe it was labiroff's not the most exciting guy to chat with well he he he had two specific things that i that i wanted to play because it's always fun when you get you know putin's i would say right hand man is probably fair to call to call you out you know, well, what are we really fighting over? What is this really about, Tucker asked.
Speaker 10
We fight for our legitimate security interests. They say, for example, 1991 borders. Lindsey Graham, who visited some time ago Zelensky for another talk.
Speaker 1
I love that he's calling out
Speaker 10
Lindy Hop. He bluntly, in presence of Zelensky, I think, said that Ukraine is very rich with rare earth metals, and we cannot leave this richness to the Russians. We must take it. We fight, so they fight for... That's what he did.
Speaker 1
Well, wait. It's likely what he did. But Lavrov gets better. He's like, oh, he's taking the high road. We fight,
Speaker 10
so they fight for the regime, which is ready to sell or to give to the West all the natural and human resources. We fight for the people.
Speaker 10
been living on this lands, whose ancestors were actually developing those lands, building cities, building factories for centuries and centuries. We care about people, not about natural resources, which somebody in the United States would like to keep and to have Ukrainians just as servants sitting on these natural resources. And whores.
Speaker 1
Don't make them slaves and whores. That's all you want, Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 10
So the message which we wanted to sell by...
Speaker 1
I like he, instead of saying the message we wanted to send, he says the message we wanted to sell, which I think is some form of a flub, you know, like truth wanted to come out because the test missile was what he's referring to. We wanted to sell a message to you.
Speaker 10
Sitting on these natural resources. testing in real action this hypersonic system is that we will be ready to do anything to defend our legitimate interest. We hate even to think about war with the United States, which will take, you know, nuclear character. So
Speaker 1
the timing of all this is not lost on me because we have trump we went to the reopening of of the cathedral in paris and zelensky was there so we're starting to ramp up the deal we've heard continuously well we got to give these guys all that we can because they have a position of strength for the coming peace negotiations. So everybody knows this is coming. And and, you know, who who walks into the UFC arena with Trump? It's Tucker. So, you know, how does does he just call up and say, you know, I think it's a good time for me to interview Lavrov. Let me see if I can call Lavrov. No, no, this is a setup. This is a deal. And it got thwarted by the CEO assassination, because I believe the idea was to have the truth come out about the war in Ukraine, about, you know, the true, you know, mission, which is to take the resources and have the Ukrainians go back to being slaves and hookers for everybody else, the way in the good old days, Lindsey Graham leading the pack. And to, again, reiterate that this is a war that NATO started. But the whole thing just fell flat in the media. And even in the, I believe, old boss new boss you know the podcasters i thought the idea was have tucker sit down oh my god tucker did an interview with lavrov i expected megan kelly to be on it dan bongino to be on it but they're all on the on the usual suspects the hill figure hero you know they're all on the monopoly money murderer so they completely got distracted but i do want to play lavrov's uh reiteration of um of the the coup
Speaker 12
but i just wonder how worried you are that considering there doesn't seem to be a lot of conversation between the two countries both sides are speaking about exterminating the other's populations that this could somehow get out of control in a very short period and no one could stop it. It seems incredibly...
Speaker 10
No, we are not talking about exterminating anybody's population. We did not start this war. We have been for years and years and years sending warnings that pushing NATO closer and closer to our borders is going to create a problem. Yes. 2007 Putin started to explain to the people who seem to be overtaken by the end of history and being dominant, no challenge and so on and so forth. And of course, when the coup took place, the Americans did not hide that they were behind it. There is a conversation between Victoria Nuland and the then American ambassador in Kyiv when they discuss personalities to be included in the new government after the coup. The figure of five billion bucks spent on Ukraine after independence was mentioned as the guarantee that everything would be like the Americans want. So we don't have any intention to exterminate Ukrainian people. They are brothers and sisters to the Russian people. So,
Speaker 1
no, we didn't get through to Code Bongino with this. I thought it would happen, but everything got sidetracked, and for good reason. I wanted to ask you, does it make sense for us, because we've done it a couple times, two and a half minutes, to replay that Victoria Nuland call, just so everyone kind of remembers? Oh, I
Speaker 2
love that call. In fact, the funny thing is that he brought it up. I want to mention this before. It was good that you play the clip have it lined up i think the russians because they're the ones who it's obvious who captured this this is russian intelligence they grabbed us they had everybody tapped and they had this beautiful call high-end quality high-end quality call beautiful and it didn't get the results they expected no the media completely ignored it completely so here it is they must have been i have to say they have to have been beside themselves like how dumb are them is the american public that that
Speaker 1
we can do this and they don't even give a shit i i'll tell you that you know hanging out with the oil baron, he said, ever since I started listening to No Agenda, he says, my whole view on the world has changed. Here's a guy who even understands such basic fundamentals as drill baby drill is bull crap. But he wasn't really thinking in these ways, you know, the No Agenda way of thinking. i think part of it's just you know exposure to you know the stuff that we play which is out there it's just it doesn't get picked up it doesn't get into any form of uh any stream let alone a mainstream or alternative stream or or urine stream it's just just it doesn't get picked up oh please Well, I think that you get there
Speaker 2
because the media and the narratives, bringing it back again to J.C., presenting his liberal buddies with this one piece of information they never got, 30 for 30, they never, it's so controlled, the public perception is so controlled by these guys that to break through it once you break through it you should be able to live with yourself but I guess it's an eye opener go
Speaker 2
was going to say this clip should have really opened everybody's eyes about what's going on and it's still nobody half the people don't know and behalf nobody knows about it this
Speaker 1
is 2014 after victoria newland was on the maidan square handing out cookies and donuts to the protesters and brennan was there don't forget cia director brennan was there lindsey graham was there john mccain was there everybody was there and hunter of course what
Speaker 13
do you you think? Oh,
Speaker 1
this is the call. She's talking to the U.S. ambassador, and his name is Pyatt. And here we go. What
Speaker 13
do you think? I
Speaker 3
think we're in play. The Klitschko piece is obviously the complicated electron here. And
Speaker 1
for those who don't know, became the mayor of Moscow. He actually owned some strip clubs, I think, or some brothels. A
Speaker 2
very famous fighter, boxer, became the world champion heavyweight boxer, along with his brother. They both did. And
Speaker 1
they didn't really want him in, but they wanted him adjacent and this is the guy who recently went on x and said hey joe rogan put me on your podcast i will tell you how it is really working okay there's
Speaker 3
obviously the complicated electron here um especially the announcement of him as deputy prime minister and you've seen some of my notes on the troubles in the marriage right now so we're trying to get a read really fast on where he is on this stuff. But I think your argument to him, which you'll need to make, I think that's the next phone call we want to set up, is exactly the one you made to Yachts. And I'm glad you sort of put him on the spot on where he fits in this scenario. And I'm very glad he said what he said in response.
Speaker 13
Good. So I don't think Cleach should go into the government. I don't think it's necessary. I don't think it's a good idea. Yeah.
Speaker 3
I mean, I guess you think in terms of him not going into the government, just let him sort of stay out and do his political homework and stuff. I'm just thinking in terms of sort of the process moving ahead, we to keep the moderate Democrats together. The problem is going to be Tani Book and his guys. And, you know, I'm sure that's part of what Yanukovych is calculating on all of this. I
Speaker 13
think Yats is the guy who's got the economic experience, the governing experience. He's the guy, you know, what he needs is Cleach and Tani Book on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week, you know.
Speaker 1
Do you remember Yatsenyuk, the guy who they installed initially, that wimpy-ass soy boy? Yeah, that guy. And he was a big disappointment. That was the wrong choice.
Speaker 13
I just think Cleach going in, he's going to be at that level working for Yatsenyuk. It's just not going to work. Yeah,
Speaker 3
no, I think that's right. Okay, good. Well, do you want us to try to set up a call with him as the next step? My
Speaker 13
understanding from that call that you tell me was that the big three were going into their own meeting and that Yats was going to offer in that context a three-way, you know, three plus one conversation or three plus two with you. Is that not how you understood it?
Speaker 3
No, I think, I mean, that's what he proposed, but I think just knowing the dynamic that's been with them where Klitschko has been the top dog, he's going to take a while to show up for whatever meeting they've got. He's probably talking to his guys at this point. So I think you reaching out directly to him helps with the personality management among the three, and it gives you also a chance to move fast on all this stuff and put us behind it before they all sit down, and he explains why he doesn't like it. Okay,
Speaker 13
good. I'm happy. Why don't you reach out to him and see if he wants to talk before
Speaker 3
or after? Okay, will do. Thanks.
Speaker 13
Okay, I've now written, oh, one more wrinkle for you, Jeff. Yeah. I can't remember if I told you this or if I only told Washington this, that when I talked to Jeff Feltman this morning, he had a new name for the UN guy, Robert Sari. Did I write you that this morning?
Speaker 8
Yeah, I saw that. He's
Speaker 13
now gotten both Sari and Ban Ki-moon to agree that Sari could come in Monday or Tuesday. Okay. So that would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and have the UN help glue it. And, you know, fuck the EU.
Speaker 1
Yay, there it is. And the only thing that the media reported on is, well, the Russians tapped her phone and they heard her say, F the EU. That's the only part of the call that was out of this. I don't even remember that, to be honest about it. Yeah. And then, you know, later she talks about having Biden come in to midwife this deal. Because, of course, and with that, she meant Joe Biden. I mean, this whole thing was so obvious. And it was ridiculous. had the right idea like oh we'll get this going through the the the new podcast uh narrative the new podcast virality and it just fell flat fell flat but they they still had the meeting in uh notre dame i have uh let me see I