i'm just not interested in the shiny happy stuff. And that's the whole sort of bewilderment i have around this notion of effortless perfection, because i think people are much more interested in sot of the rigor and the process and the massiness. Part of what i feel so compelled to do in my own interviews is talk about this struggle, talk about the obstacles, talk about how you overcame those things i'm not really as interested in. So it's not that there's something wrong with happiness,. It's just abig pretence, right? It's projection of how you want people to see you. A and that's the part that's so concerning, because