"We need to build a trauma conscious society that is largely based upon an awareness of the value of consciousness, creativity, compassion, and empathy," he says. "I have not seen a case where somebody didn't meet an individual that impressed them because even though they were the big bad extremist, they still looked at them and said, you're a human being at the end of the day and I still love you."

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