
12. Derren Brown — Magic, Happiness, and Skepticism
The Michael Shermer Show
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You're Your Best Performer, Isn't About You
"I often wonder if happiness is the right word," he says. "When you sort of get in the middle of that zone, whatever it is, whether you're painting or surfing or playing chess, that you're sort of in your happy state." The Stoics are all about avoiding anxiety, but 'anxiety is motivating a little bit' He's always going to have what I want to do and there will be frustrations along the way.
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