I was actually having breakfast this morning with a body of mine, a j ireland, who's about to go in battalion command. We were talking about how we have people in our organization all over the place that had, u like, unique gifts, unique skill sets. And you know, one of the thingsthat it's really easy to do, especially in the military environment, is to suppress anything that doesn't aline with the organization. I've seen lots of innovators younger than me pursue things that i'm pretty sure won't work or be a bad idea. And yet i was once that guy. So by setting some one free to pursue this thing passionately, they're
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Author and Air Force officer Mark Jacobsen joins Joe to discuss failure. Specifically, what it looks like, feels like, and how we can grow from it. Additionally, Mark talks with Joe about innovation and entrepreneurship, grappling with identity in the military, and his new book, Eating Glass: The Inner Journey Through Failure and Renewal.