"You cannot presume what happened in the past," he says. "What I found in fact in the archive is that native peoples were the first population to be targeted for criminalization and policing" On any given night, maybe a third of the local indigenous population was locked up and then forced to work on either the public chain gang or sold to local employers. This is in the 1850s, 60s and 70s. It's asking me my greatest joy. What does it look like when I get to go into the archive and play with all these pieces of paper? Well, first it's chaos. You have no idea. you have no idea."
MacArthur fellow and UCLA professor, Kelly Lytle Hernández, joins Adam to explain how explictly racist policies of the past created the incarceration and immigration systems we still have today.
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