Kaffeine is a interesting subject. How do you think about caffeine? And if you could talk about it in the context of just your normal day to day, and then also in relationship because you're such a big educator on fasting. I am struggled as an adult to enjoy the taste of coffee, like to the point where I just don't drink it at all, which is fine. Were you ever into coffee? No, I managed to work nights in hospitals for years and never drank coffee. That's huge. So occasionally I've green tea, but I do think caffeine has a lot of benefits.

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