How to Grow a Business With 5 Million of Cash Flow

In certain situations, a private equity player may come in and say like preferred no coupon. And that's better for me because I don't have to pay off that 8% at exit. If we just got 8% and returned that we would be kind of whole with our investors or kind of even Steven. So that's the proof. It's not an arbitrary number. We're just picking some number out of our head. There's a reason it's done this way. Some people may come in saying, hey, my money is, this is a riskier deal. I need 12%. So but it's a safe number for us. And it's pretty standard. The reason why