The difference between 1.5 and 2 is very substantial now in terms of the conference you're referring to that was at my University of the University of East Anglia which is one of the world leading centers for climate science and climate studies more generally. I gave a little talk in which I said look which I basically made the case I've just made it's imperative that we face these realities and only doing so can unlock the possibility of a transformative through topian if I may use the word future starting to emerge. At the end of my talk the chair did something very interesting he said to the room okay well let's take a quick poll who here believes that 1.5 is still alive that

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