I think he evolved from his first work, the winners, what was it, winners take all or something? It was an okay book. I mean, he I know it's a rhetorical bomb thrower. That's why I find this book so interesting because this book, even the book itself, it doesn't his opinions are not really in there. He can be critical of a system that you live happily or comfortably with. And we should separate it into, like, the three buckets, as I've talked about many times here.

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