Gre, i think this is generally true as aa professional vice or handicap of philosophy. For my own part, i actually do try to, i mean, there's two ways you can interact with non philosophers. There's the dead ones, read them, right? And then they're the live ones. I'm an enthusiast for recently, norburelias, who, i guess started out as a philosopher, but we remember him for, you know, the history of manners which is something else entirely.

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