Yeah, I think. All right. Two rounds of couples therapy. Good. I'm always good with that. But what did they get out of it? Was it really focused entirely on this dilemma? Did they learn anything from the couples therapy? Maybe there are other issues there.

The thing about couples therapy is that so many times somebody feels like they're getting the therapist on their side. So did somebody feel like, okay, the therapist took my side and now this isn't working, so we're going to go to another therapist. The other thing that you mentioned was, is there something else that this argument is standing in for? So sometimes a couple comes in and there's some kind of problem that they're coming in with, but as therapists, we listen for the music under the lyrics. The lyrics are, we have this geographic problem, we are stuck and we can't get out of it. But is there something else in the marriage

that they aren't talking about? And sometimes when you deal with an issue for a long time, and meanwhile they've had kids and all these things have happened. So sometimes you just get entrenched in your old position and you haven't adapted it for new realities or for new evolution of dynamics between the two people, like what

should have changed a little bit. I think that they're looking at this through a lens that doesn't work for this kind of problem where they feel like the way that we compromise is like everything is 50-50. We do half of this for you, we'll live here for me and then we'll go for these years and live here for you. But sometimes 50-50 doesn't mean that you literally split that one issue down the middle. And so what other areas in their marriage, if any, do they feel that there's a disequilibrium? And how have they handled that? Right.