During the pandemic, we got to see what a world with eighty or ninety per cent less oil being burned in cities was like. People were seeing the himalayas from around places they had never seen them before. And then people couldn't see even in the bay area and say, ow, its you could see more stars. The air is noticeably cleaner. I think that when people take as pause and look around at their natural environment and start to listen, there's a lot of a, there's a much to learn by doing that....
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