There's a difference between, i want to run this on corenities, and i want to have my own cobernets cluster for which i'm the adman. You can get very far with single engines, with compos and then with a swarm. And swarm is a great orchestrator, built into the engine. It moved to the enterprise with morantis when they bought the docker enterprise business, so they maintain it. We got out o docer proper as gotn out of the orchestration business. But it's a fantastic orchestrator. It just works. Anyways, lovey mat bit. Get hobe out there for daa forse lash tacker ford slash