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When gogle was making its search engine, it relied in large part on the changes that individuals were making to their personal web sites. "Our labor is actually essential to creating these platforms," he says of social networks such as facebook and twitter. But users are not really seeing that return back to the user, because this is a business,. It's not a co off. If theyre using the information to build a business and scale up.

Paris Marx is joined by Joanne McNeil to discuss how our experience online has evolved over the past three decades, the class backgrounds of tech founders, how the AIDS crisis robbed us an important contribution to the early web, and whether COVID-19 will change how we use platforms in the future.

Joanne McNeil is the author of “Lurking: How a Person Became a User.” She has written for the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, WIRED, the Baffler, and more. Follow Joanne on Twitter as @jomc.

Tech Won't Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (@techwontsaveus) and host Paris Marx (@parismarx) on Twitter.

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