I would just say that we're on a long road. I've been studying the climate movement since the 1990s when climate change started becoming a focus for the UN and people started talking about it. Initially, when we were doing work on climate change and the climate movement, everybody was talking about the precautionary principle. And today, the world has changed quite substantially too. But what we also noticed is that a third of Americans said in the past year they had experienced some sort of a climate shock. And that really changes the way that the movement resonates.

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