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How To Survive The Art World: Lucien Smith

Going Mental with Eileen Kelly

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You're the Security at the Gate of Your Life, Ben?

I appreciate you being vulnerable and talking about this with me. I mean, I think that's your kind of security at the gate of your life. Yeah. And sometimes people don't make the cut and sometimes that's painful. But that's why I like to have these conversations. Because I think people can be so judgmental on the outside.

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