Three chairs will be occupied by very special people who have been brought together originally by these two men. I came to Richard with a proposal and it sort of evolved from there. We both agreed that we had to get Mandela, because if the idea was that people without political, military or economic power but just moral authority, he was the number one target. So I think our discussions began in 1999, and we actually got to sit down with Mandela in 2001,. It then took a few more years. He was initially not very convinced. He said, I'm not sure the world wants a bunch of old-timers getting in the way. But then he remembered when he was negotiating with Hut

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