Introduction

Andrew Yang is a former founder of Venture for America and former candidate for president of the United States. Yang is now focused on introducing a third party to our two-party political system. He sits down with Erik to talk about why politics is broken and how to fix it, the current political landscape gearing into the 2024 elections, an inside look as to what's actually involved in running for president, and reflections on what he would've done differently. We also talk about universal basic income, fixing California, and fixing media polarization. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/upstream

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Preview of the episode

(03:46) When Andrew Yang realized the two-party system is broken

(08:37) How third parties can cure the system

(11:09) What’s the relationship between money and laws changing?

(16:10) How the “the last election” plays out

(16:58) Sponsors: Secureframe

(18:54) Andrew Yang’s prediction for 2024

(20:58) Introducing competition to one party state California

(25:26) Institutionalization of the DNC

(27:58) Manufacturing the “presidential quality”

(29:12) Andrew Yang on Vivek Ramaswamy

(33:05) Self-interest in politics

(34:52) How to get more talented people to be in politics

(37:39) Andrew Yang’s reflections on his candidacy

(40:07) What it’s like to run for president

(46:10) Trumpism is not over

(47:10) Future of disunity?

(49:39) Media environment

(52:32) UBI and AI

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