Cubinetis - What's the Biggest Change?

Achipa: I've heard of various different teams working on what i would loosely call an application object with ancubinities. In the case of argo, for example, is there talk between all the vendors who are working at the application layer on have one thing where you can effectively use different sets of tools to deploy? Bruno: The change doesn't have to come from a cubinetis perspective, but how people perceive value. And we're slowly seeing those changes.