It's that and everything that's happened up to this point, so lite. That's why it gets misunderstood. You can even hear very sweet ben schwartz do it on the pot on of the podcast being lieke,. It sounds like a guy trying to connet. But then i realize, oh, shit, if that were dad, that would feel really shiddy. Ye, if ecause to me, now i'm just like, there's no, i don't really need to connect with you. There's no problem here. But to your child s, that's it. Like if i met ben's dad, i don’t know ben's dad
Pete and Val catch up and get INTO it!