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Joy DeGruy: Access to Respect

The Man Enough Podcast

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I Can't Do What You Do, You Know?

LZ Granderson: I think that the first step for anyone has to begin with, you know, even just being curious. And i have done that at various points in my life and discovered phenomenal things about myself and how i've impacted other people. LZ: There's always something some one can do. We talk so much about creating a safe space for for people and men, particularly in this broadcast,. But it is so different. Like l i wrote a book about masculinity, and it was almost impossible. It is so fundamentally different to the experience of being a white man in america and the experience ofbeing a black man in America.

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