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Patrick Ophuls: "Energy, Politics, and The Future"

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

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Are You Most Hopeful About the Future?

Patrick Simons: I feel that deep down, a lot of humans do feel kinship with the natural world. But this also gets back to politics; tigers and elephants don't sit in our political chambers or corporate boardrooms. He says French President Macron's admission that the age of abundance is over would be laughed off the stage in the U.S. The Great Simplification podcast airs weekdays at 8 p.m. ET on CNN.com/Heroes.

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