Camar's point was I really like crop circles until I figured out how they were made. One case in particular, Matt, with two old English dudes who they would step... They would tamp it down using a long 2x4,. And they claim to have done all of these different crops. It's such bullshit. That was like a hard patsy that they made. So they got these guys to do a couple of fake crop circles that are really sucks compared to some of the other ones where you can clearly see their stamp marks. Like it's all such garbage, but everybody just fell for it. Hook line and sinker.