A lot of people that are militantly atheist or whatever, they are just as dogmatic as the thing that they're raging against. The middle allows right what we'd say in the traditional East is it gets your passions go down. So here spirit is unseen. Don't hear spirit is we it's just things you can't taste touch smell. And so then to tie it into the Christian narrative: He's God and man. He's God is pure spirit man is pure physical. Then you have this creature that is both God man. And so now I don't care if you believe in it. Again, it's really up to you because this thing is profoundly personal concept. But
John Heers is the Co-Founder and Director of the First Things Foundation, and the host of the podcast, Why Are We Talking About Rabbits?
The First Things Foundation is a non-profit organization that takes young people from the “new world” of the West to the “old world” of developing countries where they immerse, learn the language, and connect with local entrepreneurs and helps empower them to spur organic, ground-up development in their communities. They have active projects in Guatemala, Sierra Leone, the Georgia Republic, Ethiopia, and Appalachia near and dear to me here in the Rust Belt of the United States.
John has a Master's Degree in History from Columbia University. Previous to First Things Foundation, John worked overseas serving the Peace Corps as a water resource manager in Mali, oversaw emergency relief in the Georgian Republic, and taught history for 9 years in South Bronx and Harlem in New York City and Haiti.
In our conversation we dive into:
- The global response to COVID
- Metaphysics, spirituality, and secularism
- Wealth inequality
- Corruption in the non-profit world
- Psychedelics and simulation theory
- Nihilism, and spiritual versus the material world
- Loneliness and the opioid epidemic
- Community, and extreme poverty
- Democracy and revolution
- The declining health of western culture
- How technology may make or break our future
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