The fall into poverty is kind of the ultimate American fear. And wouldn't it be nice to have a society where you knew like whatever happened, whatever happened, you'd be okay? You know, and that's the society that I want. Most Americans want a higher minimum wage. Most Americans think they're rich are paying their fair share taxes. So I think that there is a shift going on in the American public. We want a new story. We want to have a different conversation about inequality today.

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