In this episode, we welcome back Guy Podjarny, founder of Snyk and Tessl, to explore the evolution of AI-assisted coding. We dive deep into the three chapters of AI's impact on software development, from coding assistants to the rise of "vibe coding" and agentic development.
Guy explains what "vibe coding" truly is, a term coined by Andrej Karpathy where developers delegate more control to AI, sometimes without even reviewing the code. We discuss how this opens the door for non-coders to create real applications but also introduces significant risks.
Caleb, Ashish and Guy discuss:
- The Three Chapters of AI-Assisted Coding: The journey from simple code completion to full AI agent-driven development.
- Vibe Coding Explained: What is it, who is using it, and why it's best for "disposable apps" like prototypes or weekend projects.
- A New Security Threat - Slopsquatting: Discover how LLMs can invent fake library names that attackers can exploit, a risk potentially greater than typosquatting.
- The Future of Development: Why the focus is shifting from the code itself—which may become disposable—to the importance of detailed requirements and rigorous testing.
- The Developer as a Manager: How the role of an engineer is evolving into managing AI labor, defining specifications, and overseeing workflows
Questions asked:
(00:00) The Evolution of AI Coding Assistants(05:55) What is Vibe Coding?(08:45) The Dangers & Opportunities of Vibe Coding(11:50) From Vibe Coding to Enterprise-Ready AI Agents(16:25) Security Risk: What is "Slopsquatting"?(22:20) Are Old Security Problems Just Getting Bigger?(25:45) Cloud Sprawl vs. App Sprawl: The New Enterprise Challenge(33:50) The Future: Disposable Code, Permanent Requirements(40:20) Why AI Models Are Getting So Good at Understanding Your Codebase(44:50) The New Role of the AI-Native Developer: Spec & Workflow Manager(46:55) Final Thoughts & Favorite Coding Tools
Resources spoken about during the episode:
AI Native Dev Community
Tessl
Cursor
Bolt
BASE44
Vercel
