When Do We Want It?

"We have government that is built on soft norms, as you say, public approbation. And i guess i want to end on this note of, do you ever get to the place where you're just like, this whole freaking thing sucks?" "Give me your best case for why this system requires bolstering when byden violates it, or when trump violates it," he says. 'These are scary times and people look around and they see we don't have what we should have'