James hunter and paul netalesky rie are theists. Their book is science and the good, the tragic quest for the foundations of morality. Hunter: The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference. Netaleski: It probably takes some kind of abstract reasoning, maybe even language to scale up from these kind of pre moral sentiments that primates have or maybe all mammals.

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